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May 11th, 2009
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I've got half a mind to give everyone rosey cheeks from now on.
Shortpacked!: Predestination


Holy Jesus in a Pinto, the new Revenge of the Fallen Leader Class Optimus Prime is nothing short of awe-inspiring.  Like the new Starscream, he's a new attempt at the same design within the same size class.  But the differences here are much, much, much more dramatic.

(Keep in mind that my first-movie Prime is heavily modified, both with additions of paint and some Reprolabels upgrade stickers.) 

The old Prime looks kind of like a dumpy ol' brick in comparison.  Inelegant.  And, again, based on early concept sketches because the movie wasn't finished at the time.  In context, it was amazing what they could do at the time with what information they had.  And, man, did I love that first movie Leader Prime.  He's another good balance of complexity and intuitiveness.  But with the first movie in the past, a better Prime can be made. 

Where the first Prime looked like he was chiseled into a block, ROTF Prime is tall and atheletic.  His legs aren't stumpy, and his chest and shoulders are broad compared to his waist.  Each half of his windowed chest is actually a separate hinged contraption which angles slightly up towards the neck, rather than the whole of the chest being flat and untransformable.  Kibble no longer hangs off his butt, restricting his movement. 

Now, here's the potentially terrible trade-off.  ROTF Prime's transformation is amazingly complicated.  Just his feet unfold and unhinge into most of the underside of the truck mode.  Just his feet!  There's that many parts involved.  In fact, to give you an idea of how many directions this guy's parts go, the underside of his feet is the front grill and bumper of the truck.  On his butt hang the taillights.  His entire torso comes apart and forms the top two-thirds of the truck, from just above the wheel wheel to the roof.  His arms become the nose of the truck and the criss-crossing parts of Optimus Prime's back reassemble into the blue section behind the cab.

Sounds fun?  The ambiguity of his two-sided instructions makes sure it's not.  At least the first time.  It remains to be seen how rough a time it'll be on subsequent attempts.  Now, none of what you have to do with him is along the lines of the worst of Transformer shellformers.  Everything clicks into place.  It's just that there's so much of it.  So so much to do.  He transforms like he should have been a higher Masterpiece-like pricepoint.  The sheer number of parts involved is insane.  

(So insane that some parts had to be dropped, apparently, probably for cost reasons.  The photos of the toy on the back of the box show him with articulated hands.  The final toy's hands are a single sculpted piece.  Also, the wheels on his thighs would have been able to collapse in on themselves to achieve a thinner look in robot form, and the steps on his thighs also would have been able to fold out of the way.) 

One thing to watch out for, when transforming him.  Remember I mentioned that his robot chest is actually two separate hinged pieces?  The end that attaches to his stomach in robot mode, you have to sort of yank it out for transformation - basically, you're pulling a piece out of its hinge.  It feels like you're breaking it.  This is not at all clear in the instructions, and on top of that I worry about eventually putting plastic stressmarks there. 

He's got a flip-out blade on each arm.  Push the triggers on the inside of his forearms, and they'll swing out.  Also, when you push his head back or touch his head or push his chest or touch his chest or touch him at all, you'll activate his electronics.  He says "I am Optimus Prime!" in Peter Cullen's voice and lights flash.  I had to take the batteries out of him because trying to transform him and having the sounds go off every time I maneuvered him was driving poor Maggie insane.  

So the difference between the new Prime and the old is night and day.  This is most startling when you have them side-by-side in truck mode, where they look practically identical in size and shape.  Somehow you get completely differently-assembled robots out of that same truck, one short and squat, the other tall and athletic.  One's more simpler to navigate but isn't as pretty, and the other one's insane but is much more elegant in robot mode. 

Choose wisely!

(And if you choose the Old Version, I've got my custom-painted Premium Optimus Prime up for auction.  He also comes with the art you see to the right!  Ends in three days!)

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From:finback
Date:May 11th, 2009 11:35 pm (UTC)
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Wow, the comparative shot of them side by side in robot mode really stresses how different they can be..
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From:posindustries
Date:May 11th, 2009 11:35 pm (UTC)
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No no no, Future Spock, you senile old green-blooded bastard. Kirk's illegitimate son was killed by a Klingon in the next movie. He only met his son in Wrath of Khan.
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From:abrogate
Date:May 11th, 2009 11:44 pm (UTC)
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Your first Prime picture doesn't link to its full-size version, just so ya know.
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From:prfkttear
Date:May 11th, 2009 11:46 pm (UTC)
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Jeez... just when I thought I'd talked myself out of ignorning ROTF you have to go and post these pics!!! I got a Premium movie Fatimus, but I do believe I will have to get me some of this new hot ass Prime!
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From:z4nd4r
Date:May 12th, 2009 12:00 am (UTC)
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Pearls Before Swine stole one of your punchlines:

http://comics.com/pearls_before_swine/2009-05-11/
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From:mrblisterfists
Date:May 12th, 2009 12:07 am (UTC)
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I hate you...

~neck vein throbs angrily~
From:montyprime
Date:May 12th, 2009 12:17 am (UTC)
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Oooh! Leonard Nimoy!

RotF prime actually looks like Optimus did in the movie. The way you have him posed really reminds me of the end of the first movie when he says they're there. And they're waiting.
Meanwhile, Sam and Mikaela are doing naughty things on Bumblebee.
From:bocc_kob
Date:May 12th, 2009 12:32 am (UTC)
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Oh, was my comment a movie spoiler? I thought it was just a toy feature.
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From:rogerz21
Date:May 12th, 2009 01:02 am (UTC)
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I do appreciate how much like the concept art Prime looked like with his first toy though. Sure the wheels are more like like coat-tails, but the details are all there. From the cowlings on his ankles facing forward instead of up, to the "minicon port" details on his feet above his toes. And hey.. Prime was the figure that made me give hope back to the Leader Class line.

I eagerly await Hair-pulling crazy Prime.
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From:mrmunkeepants
Date:May 12th, 2009 01:40 am (UTC)
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holy crap! yes, "his chest and shoulders are broad compared to his waist" and I know it's more accurate that way, but to me they seem too wide. is there a way to push them back into the cab?

now do I repaint my old Night Watch Prime as Nemesis, or buy a bunch of deluxes and turn him into Motormaster?
From:chickenbird
Date:May 12th, 2009 02:39 am (UTC)
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Man, you got me worried with that "potentially terrible" talk. You shoulda been a bit quicker to mention the "terribleness" is that its transformation is TOO AWESOME
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From:deriksmith
Date:May 12th, 2009 02:44 am (UTC)
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The blue deco on the inside of his forearms freaks me out.

It's like- "Look, molded-in painted fake transformation kibble has been added to reflect the movie's character model... while we desperately try to minimize the toy's actual transformation kibble, because that's now what he looks like."

This is made more surreal because it's not "fake kibble" like Powermaster Prime's two windshields... it's real kibble. That blue-deco'd piece is an actual chunk of truck that turns into something-- it's even part of the 2007 toy's transformation! Only with this re-worked transformation scheme, the parts don't correlate... so we get molded detail with a paint-app.

That hurts my brain.
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From:shortpacked
Date:May 12th, 2009 10:00 am (UTC)
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The blue stripes on his forearms didn't turn into anything on the old toy. They hid inside the back of the truck. In order to get them to turn into anything, you'd have to unscrew his arms apart to get them out.
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From:deriksmith
Date:May 12th, 2009 05:53 pm (UTC)
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So you mean... they're fake kibble? A chunk of blue that LOOKS like ti turns into something truck-related on the CGI character model-- but doesn't?

So this if fake-fake kibble? And the 2007 toy had REAL-fake-fake kibble?

FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--*
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From:shortpacked
Date:May 12th, 2009 06:13 pm (UTC)
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I don't see much evidence that the strip of blue really turned into anything. They were just decorative.
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From:deriksmith
Date:May 12th, 2009 06:58 pm (UTC)
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Exactly! Decorative faux-vehicle-kibble visible only in robot mode that looks vaguely like something folded over.
From:marcussparchs
Date:May 12th, 2009 02:50 am (UTC)

ROTF Prime:: No Gun?

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Does the ROTF leader Prime have a gun of any kind? I remember the first movie Prime toy had one did it not? Also, did Prime actually use a gun in the first of the new movies? All I remember was him killing Bonecrusher with the blade.
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From:finback
Date:May 12th, 2009 03:34 am (UTC)

Re: ROTF Prime:: No Gun?

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He shot at Megatron once in the street battle.
From:chickenbird
Date:May 12th, 2009 04:08 am (UTC)

Re: ROTF Prime:: No Gun?

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No gun on ROTF Prime, just his two swords.

I don't think it's out of the question to expect a retooled version that has one or even two guns. For a second in the trailer you can see him with a gun on each hand.
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From:link_leonhart
Date:May 12th, 2009 07:24 am (UTC)
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Dear God, the new Optimus is beautiful...
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From:sabre_justice
Date:May 12th, 2009 08:04 am (UTC)
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An amazingly complicated transformation? Y'know, that makes me want it more. I like toys that make me feel accomplished to successfully play with.
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From:andrusi
Date:May 12th, 2009 09:22 am (UTC)
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He says "I am Optimus Prime!"

Oh, if only he also made truck and gun noises!
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From:rogerz21
Date:May 12th, 2009 09:29 am (UTC)
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He does make truck noises!

Gun noises, not so much.
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From:andrusi
Date:May 12th, 2009 09:35 am (UTC)
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I was unaware of this!

So we just need someone to work out a way to make him make gun noises. (Maybe the previously-hypothesized gun-toting retool will add them?) Then he will be the G2 homage he so clearly wants to be.
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From:rogerz21
Date:May 12th, 2009 10:07 am (UTC)
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Yeah, his truck mode sound effect button is hiding in plain sight. See the two little bumps on his headache rack in Walky's rear view photo? One of those is truck noises. The other is just symmetry.
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From:packy
Date:May 12th, 2009 09:41 am (UTC)
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I love that comic so much, I'm pimping the URL to everybody I know.

Oh, you goofy Future Spock.
From:enkidomark
Date:May 12th, 2009 02:20 pm (UTC)

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Hey, I think you meant to put this link http://www.reprolabels.com/Movie/upgradem4.asp
in your ebay page. The one you have goes to the sticker set for the voyager prime.
Great strip. Haven't seen the movie yet, but I heard that the phrase "alternate universe" is clearly used like a hammer of subtlety. I bet this is their way of avoiding the conclussion that, through the use of this plot device, the entirety of the previous trek fiction is now moot because "it happens this way now" *geeky rioting ensues*
From:diosoth
Date:May 31st, 2009 05:17 am (UTC)
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I got mine yesterday, despite... problems. The nearby Walmart apparently didn't think it was necessary to even get a shipment of the movie toys in stock, which killed my plan to buy anything while doing basic shopping. So I had to haul myself to Toys R Us. I chose them as I had received a coupon card in the mail during the week for $10 off a purchase of $50 or more.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj72/diosoth/mayhaul4.jpg

Sonic the Werehog was basically free with that card, though so it turned out to my benefit to make the trip. The video game was $1, picked up while out. Ignore the other item.

I like this toy a lot and I'm not a huge fan of the movie aesthetic. Transformation does annoy me a bit but the trick with the feet is nice. I'd rate this as easier to transform than Masterpiece Megatron(which I did own briefly, but traded of for a DS Lite last year).

I would advise EVERYONE to remove the batteries the second they expose the battery cover. Hearing this toy talk every 2 second is annoying. Hearing the EXACT SAME THING every 2 seconds is excrutiating. And I agree with you without argument about the chest pieces. They are harder than need be to pull free.

I have to admit I hate the swords. They get in the way. But they're dirt easy to remove as the internal springs won't go flying if you open the forearm.

Then there's the mech alive gimmick. I can't help but think it's a lot like those moments at the end of 80s cartoons where all the heroes would start laughing as the credits started. That's... that's really all it does.

Starscream is on my list but the jacked up price($23 at TRU) meant it'll have to wait. None of the deluxes interest me. I'll get the few Legends I want eventually. No Megatron, no Jetfire, definitley no Devastator. I have budget restraints.
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